Originally by: Skillshot

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Again more stupid rules to force those that dont like nor want to pvp to be forced to even though they are paying customers ccp and the devs are basiclly saying we dont care if you do pay the monthly fee your going to play the way we tell you no matter what.. ok so now you have catered to the pirats, now youhave caterd to the pirates again, so when are you gonna make fireing weapons in empire imposable.. that amounts to about the same thing that your doing with the log off timer.

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Originally by: Xantia Blade

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Originally by: Riddari

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You know this is a clear statement on the amount of real life that Devs currently enjoy (I'm guessing it's another crunch time now and they don't see their loved ones much).

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Riddari relax, seriously, just unplug your computer and chill. Its just a game, yet you take things like a raven is about to land on the roof of your house.

If you don't like the game, don't play. Its as simple as that. Why troll the devs? Just leave, Im sure someones 2nd (or even 3rd) account will make up for you and contribute more positively on the forums.

Its a game, remember that and don't get so wound up.

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Originally by: Sceartan

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Originally by: Missy Meatshield

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Are you people BLIND.... do you not see everyone posting that it is possible to log on an alt on the same account and your main will disappear INSTANTLY and there is no way for CCP to fix this.

Who cares about the stupid 30 minute timer when you can bypass it by logging on your alt who is on the same account? FFS people.

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AFAIK, That's an exploit.

Besides, the time it takes for Eve to reload (thanks for getting rid of the option to goto the login screen), connect, authenticate, load the character screen, select a character and then do its unit getting or whatever it does.. the 30 minute timer probably would have expired.

Why would I do that if I can fly around for 30 minutes on my main and log off without using an exploit? Oh yeh, because I've had to leave my computer and do something in real life. Not because I'm scared of losing a ship.

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Originally by: mahhy

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Originally by: Joshua Calvert

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It's not FEAR of losing a ship that causes this uproar. It's the fact that any r/t interruption now seems a guarentee to lose your ship. Safespot-scanning is a very commonly used thing these days and 30 mins is long enoguh to find 90% of SS.

Why should 99% of PVP'ers suffer for the actions of the remaining 1%?

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Morning Josh

I've refined my position from yesterday a bit, down to this:

The logoff timer will not help the game because if you are actually playing the game it means nothing. You just warp around until it expires.

The _ONLY_ people this timer actually affects are people that must go entirely AFK and have no hope of trying to prevent their shpi/pod from being found.

Theres not a single other situation where this timer willl actually make the game better. People screaming about so called log out tactics just don't get it. The reason a group of players logs out in enemy territory is because they are outnumbered (in most cases). While outnumbered that group of players can't do anything in game anyhow, so spending 30 minutes warping around doing nothing doesn't change a single thing.

30 minute logoff timer is just a bad idea.

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